Question about porn as super stimulus, novelty and porn actors?

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I guess that most porn actors aren't addicted to sex and they don't struggle with addiction problems, however they do have sex with many novel partners every day. I wondered if this novelty thing is really a super stimulus for the brain or not. Why aren't porn actors like a porn user?
Both have sex with many different women daily, though one is doing it for real and the other only observing on the screen.
Do you think that porn actors feel overstimulated or experience any negative side effects of doing their job?

It's VERY different. Real

It's VERY different.

Real sex with hot women is actually satisfying and the super stimulus doesn't even come close to the trance state you feel when edging on porn for hours.

I have sex with prostitutes that look like pornstars and I can tell you that the effect it has on the brain is very different from the one you get from watching shemale porn or oiled orgies or POV triple blowjobs.

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I know, that is my guess as well. So may be the novelty only when viewed on the screen can be taken as super stimulus, real life is different? That sounds odd... The novelty thing is not really harmful in real life no matter how many women you have sex with but harmful when viewing porn?
Or may be novelty by itself is not a super stimulus and it's not harmful...

It's not odd. They are very

It's not odd.

They are very different stimuli.

I don't know the science behind it, I just know that real sex, even if it's with multiple novel partners, is not nearly as damaging to the brain as watching porn for hours on a daily basis.

Porn makes me tired, lazy, and unproductive. It worsens my ED, takes away the joy from many things in life, and sometimes makes me feel like a loser.

When you watch porn you have to keep escalating because the softcore stuff that used to arouse you don't arouse you anymore.

The porn actors are probably addicted to sex and want to have sex constantly, but I don't think they experience the rest of side effects I just described.

I'm not so

persuaded that the sex porn stars have is as fulfilling or healthy as you would think from the cues they produce for the entertainment of their own viewers (and for their paychecks).

I think novelty doesn't jolt the brain unless the desire pathway is attached (e.g., unless the brain is viewing the activity as a fertilization opportunity it wants). For example, if a woman went to a new gynecologist every day and had an exam...it would be novel, but not arousing.

I suspect some porn exploits are just about that arousing for the participants --despite the "evidence" to the contrary. But what would I know??? Wink

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[quote=Marnia]persuaded that the sex porn stars have is as fulfilling or healthy as you would think from the cues they produce for the entertainment of their own viewers (and for their paychecks).

I think novelty doesn't jolt the brain unless the desire pathway is attached (e.g., unless the brain is viewing the activity as a fertilization opportunity it wants). For example, if a woman went to a new gynecologist every day and had an exam...it would be novel, but not arousing.
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May be you are right , I don't know, I should research more on how male porn actors feel and what's their sexual life like.
But they do experience novelty everyday, I guess their brains take a real naked woman as a fertilization opportunity, so this factor for novelty is present. There are many more beneficial factors however(like having real sex) , so the novelty and the super stimulus may not have the negative effects on the brain that porn has.

From the end user's perspective

It may seem there are advantages to the choreographed sex. I tend to think just like anything else it could take "the fun" out of actual sex with a partner you love. Don't fall into the trap of becoming jealous of their exploits. It's also possible or likely that many of them are sexually addicted and their lives revolve around getting it on with no intimacy. What an empty emotional experience they must have - all sizzle and no steak.

"I asked my doctor about Karezza and now I have an enormous penis!"

Hey this is a great topic.

People in the porn and users have the same problems as everyone else. The performers often come from abusive homes and do have addiction issues. They are in some kind of weird alternate universe where all sorts of depravity is their every day reality. Something that we might see in a video as novelty, in real life isn't so novel, just abusive and wrong. I think part of the transformation of a porn user is learning to "see" in a different way. Learning to see women (or shemales or men) in the videos as human beings deserving of the same respect and integrity as everyone else and not as objects for our instant sexual gratification. Of course this is how their bodies are represented in the videos that we've been masturbating to orgasm for so long. I didn't say it was easy but I think it's necessary.

Also, it's pretty well understood by women who leave the industry and tell their stories that there are always drugs and booze around. In fact, it's a time honored pimp strategy of getting compliance, get her hooked on something. It's a lot easier to "perform" some of the acts depicted if you are doped up. There is a much higher suicide rate among people in the porn industry. (see below video)

One thing that helps me stay away from porn is I imagine myself as the women in the videos. Would I want to be "DP'd" or for someone (or multiple men) to cum on my face? Certainly not. Most people when asked probably wouldn't consent to that. What's interesting to me is precisely how this is a sort of "normal" thing in porn and why are these humiliations and others arousing? Some clues and even a few answers are found on this website.

The feminist argument is that deep down some men (maybe a lot of men) are masturbating to and becoming aroused by things *because* they are abusive and degrading. Most men aren't abusive or rapists (at least I'd like to think so.) To most men the issue of the *consent* of the woman matters. As boys and adolescents we are taught "No Means No" and never to force someone to do something they don't want to. Therefore when these men who have otherwise healthy attitudes towards sex enter the "anything goes" world of porn, where anything you would "like to see done" (I say that purposely) to a woman (or child, or shemale or man) can be had....that plays havoc with and actually "hijacks" our reward circuitry. Anyway that was a long sentence but that's the direction I've gone in trying to understand this process of getting hooked on porn, because I'm not an abusive, depraved sex fiend. (lol loaded words huh?)

Here's an anti-porn video showing the casualties of porn.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0q_VGacfNk&playnext=1&list=PL7019AB216E4...

Incidentally here's a woman who penned a tune memorializing them and lists reuniting.info as a place for porn users to get help! As a song writer I appreciate the effort but I think it needs work.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te5a5e51jHU&playnext=1&list=PL7019AB216E4...

"I asked my doctor about Karezza and now I have an enormous penis!"

Oy~

I read the comments following the article and one that has stuck with me is where the gentleman said (and I'm paraphrasing), "If his wife had been more interesting in bed, he wouldn't have had to turn to porn" (or something like that).

And this made me feel a wave of relief in knowing that karezza is not about sex being "interesting"~~it's about *feeling* the most delicious feelings you can imagine and not needing to create visual theatre for my lover in order to keep his interest.

AHHHHHHH. Just so happy to have discovered it! (thank you)

rediscovered

Typical justification

It's outside of him somehow the reasons for *his* porn use. Some people are incapable of looking in the mirror.

"I asked my doctor about Karezza and now I have an enormous penis!"